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BeforetheBigBang 2013 Redux


Gravity http://Louis9J9Sheehan9esquire.blog.ca/ http://rpc.technorati.com/rpc/ping Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:52:48 +0200 http://www.blog.ca en 1.0 http://www.blog.ca http://Louis9J9Sheehan9esquire.blog.ca/ &quot; ... the prattling of idiots.&quot; [Page 413} -- Lou Sheehan http://Louis9J9Sheehan9esquire.blog.ca/2013/04/18/the-prattling-of-idiots-page-413-lou-sheehan-15765554/ Thu, 18 Apr 2013 07:06:16 +0200 Beforethebigbang <p>Dolanweek8 Week 8 Discussion 1. A response from Tom Carey regarding the Roswell debris: From: TCarey1947@aol.com Subject: Re: Fair Questions? Date: April 17, 2013 4:20:49 PM EDT To: lousheehan@mac.com Dear Lou: See below for my responses to your all fair questions. Tom Carey In a message dated 4/15/2013 10:04:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lousheehan@mac.com writes: Mr. Carey, My all-to-glib understanding of the Roswell wreckage is that it consists of (i) the memory metal, (ii) the beam with markings, and (iii) seemingly, thin, light-weight metal that can't be dented with a sledgehammer. That was pretty much most of it as you indicate, but there were also wires that remind us today of "monofilament-type wiring," pieces of metallic debris (non-"I-Beam" pieces) with strange writing on them, like the "I-Beams," and a small, seamless black box that could not be opened. [For the sake of simplicity, allow me to use simple/generic words.] Assuming so (and ignoring Col. Corso's indirect claims), why was/is there no mention of 'gizmos' (assuming it takes more than memory metal, sledgehammer-metal and beam(s) to comprise a ship (scout or otherwise))? I can't account for or defend Corso, but we (and that includes Don Schmitt, Kevin Randle and Stan Friedman) simply reported what was described to us by the witnesses. That's what good historians do, right? Is it clear that there is a distinction between the memory metal and the sledgehammer-metal? Right. Is there a sense that when Mr. Marcel (Sr.) gathered the debris together, put it into his car, etc., that there was only ONE beam in his presumedly random collection ... or more than one beam? Marcel, Sr. only mentioned in detail a single "I-Beam," but I think in interviews over the years, his son suggested that there may have been more than one scattered amongst the wreckage. Thank you, -- Lou= 2. [Page 395 ] To some extent this answers a question I had in an earlier week: the Text Book references Tim Weiner?s book ?Blank Check.? I assume there was nothing in Weiner?s book even remotely connectable to UFOs? 3. [Page 405] I wondered about the referenced ?extensive discussion of Roswell? but only seven lines of text on an alleged 1950 crash in Texas. However, it might be difficult to say much about something that had been ?almost totally incinerated?: On 06 December, 1950, a second object, probably of similar origin,impacted the earth at high speed in the El Indio -Guerrero area of the Texas - Mexican border after following a long trajectory through the atmosphere. By the time a search team arrived, what remained of the object had been almost totally incinerated. Such material as could be recovered was transported to the A. E. C. facility at Sandia, New Mexico, for study. 4. [Page 408] I thought it was interesting to note that even as Steinman was writing to Dr. Walker (in 1987) Steinman was or had already developed his theories of a deep religious/Christian connection involving UFOs: http://www.ufoera.com/articles/ufo-statements-by-william-m-steinman_1190311114.html 5. [Page 411] Why does Dr. Walker refer to the seventh sense (I am assuming the ?sixth sense? for these purposes is ESP)? As per the following book title, is the ?7th Sense? supposed to be ?remote viewing?? The Seventh Sense: The Secrets of Remote Viewing as Told by a "Psychic Spy" for the U.S. Military [Paperback] Lyn Buchanan (Author) 6. [Page 413] Reference is made to a multiple witness sighting in Newtown, Connecticut. It can seem to be a small world. 7. The more I read of it, the more important I realize the Hudson Valley case was. I don?t understand why it hasn?t been investigated to the extent that, for example, Rendlesham has been investigated. Heck, Imbrogno said he, himself, eventually saw one of the vehicles simply by being in the area and involved in the investigation. I?d think seeing one of these things would be inspirational and motivating. I have the book in storage in Pennsylvania, but I ordered another copy be sent to me here in Texas. 8. [Page 421] I?m sorry, but John Lear seems to be a waste of time. He spouts incredible amounts of ... ?facts? ... without an iota of proof; I heard him spin his incredibly long yarn on Coast -2-Coast; I forget ... according to Lear there are 57 different types of aliens? I always wondered how Lear found himself to be a friend of Lazar, but now I understand Lear was in the capacity of MUFON State director for Nevada. 9. [Page 422] Bobby Ray Inman was a new name to me. Per Wikipedia, Admiral Inman was/is well-connected. I found it interesting that he DIDN?T have a techie educational background: ?Inman graduated from Texas with a bachelor's in history in 1950.? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Ray_Inman 10. [Pages 428/614] US Coast Guard case is also a good one and was new to me; shades of Bentwaters with the breaking off of various units. Here is a link to the Coast Guard?s Incident Report: (yes, yes, from one of Richard Dolan?s webpages which, byt the way, he references in his newest lecture on youtube): http://keyholepublishing.com/1988-3-CoastGuard.JPG 11. [Page 434] Entirely ignoring Ed Walters, Gulf Breeze is at least reasonable case. Undoubtedly debunkers want to focus on Ed, but apparently there were many other witnesses; I recollect seeing a television show where a large number of people living in the Gulf Breeze area claimed to have recently seen a UFO. I found it. It is on youtube, on UFO Cover-Up? Live! The Gulf Breeze discussion begins at about minute 48:30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA5GpKcJ3zc 12. [Page 445] I exchanged some e-mails with Stan Friedman regarding [missing] Blue Book Report # 13. From: STANTON FRIEDMAN <fsphys> Subject: Re: Regarding Reports 1 through and including 13 (Blue Book gave us Special Report 14), Condon Report page 511 says Date: April 18, 2011 12:16:06 PM EDT To: Louis Sheehan <lousheehan> Lou: I discuss this in Flying Saucers and Science. I did a job for FTD. Two final reports one unclassified one very highly classified not mentioned in the unc. one.. also involved FTD and Battelle where BB Spec. Report 14 was done.Two people have independently told me of seeing No.13 Stan From: Louis Sheehan <lousheehan> To: Stanton T Friedman <fsphys> Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 1:30:36 AM Subject: Regarding Reports 1 through and including 13 (Blue Book gave us Special Report 14), Condon Report page 511 says "Starting in November 1951, Project Grudge and later Project Blue Book issued a series of 'Status Reports' numbered 1 through 12. Numbers 1 through 12 were originally classified 'Confidential,' while 10, 11 and 12 were classified 'Secret.' All were declassified as of 9 September 1960 but copies were not readily available until 1968 when they were published by NICAP." I assume 13 is out there somewhere? -- Lou From: STANTON FRIEDMAN <fsphys> Subject: Re: Regarding Reports 1 through and including 13 (Blue Book gave us Special Report 14), Condon Report page 511 says Date: April 20, 2011 8:19:05 AM EDT To: Louis Sheehan <lousheehan> In the past the USAF said it was included in 14 or there was none, just as some buildings don't have 13th floor. Hog wash!. FOIA is a crazy quilt.. some people are helpful, some are not. Sometimes they just don't know. I suspect that The Foreign Technology Div. has had many requests Stan.. From: Louis Sheehan <lousheehan> To: STANTON FRIEDMAN <fsphys> Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 12:02:30 AM Subject: Re: Regarding Reports 1 through and including 13 (Blue Book gave us Special Report 14), Condon Report page 511 says I'm familiar with your FOIA sagas. I'm doing a physics project for my 'senior project' but, in retrospect, I wonder if I shouldn't have done a or several FOIA requests. Any thoughts as to the (probable) results of a FOIA request for 13? -- Lou 13. [Page 447] Cooper is a waste of time. 14. [Page 448] How the he** could -- I believe Doty and Collins -- assert the aliens had IQs that exceeded 200? Were these ?insect-like in appearance? aliens administered a human IQ test? Cut me a break. Or Collins/Doty provided us with their ... professional estimate? Those guys should be ashamed of themselves. 15. [Page 459] ?Zero Point Energy.? There are lots of good discussions of this on-line. As I recall, there was also an interesting inference on the BBC 4 Special ?The Atom.? zero point energy. Here is another website: http://www.cosmolearning.com/documentaries/the-race-to-zero-point-free-energy/ Free Energy: The Race to Zero Point In this award-winning, feature length, two-hour broadcast-quality Documentary you will learn about the latest developments in the field of Free and Zero Point Energy from Tesla to Dennis Lee. Hosted by Bill Jenkins, formerly of ABC Radio, this comprehensive documentary features physicists and inventors who are challenging orthodox science to bring this non-polluting technology forward despite ridicule and suppression. See actual working prototypes that defy classical physics including phenomenal experiments in anti-gravity and the transmutation of metals. 16. If only I had time,I would try reading the book ?The Threat.? It simply sounds implausible (including but not limited to: they have to turn their entire abduction into being invisible! their ability to float people through walls!). 17. As a practical matter, it might be a good idea to learn how to do hypnotherapy/hypnosis/regression. 18. Regarding Travis Walton, I know there is much emphasis on the lie-detector tests, but what about -- assuming Travis was NOT abducted -- the failure of the ?huge manhunt?s? and the ?tracking dogs?s? inability to locate Travis for 5 days? If he wasn?t abducted, how did he manage to avoid the manhunt? 19. In abductions, how do the ?aliens? seem to consistently (although not 100% of the time) have the ability to make people ?forget? their experiences fot at least a short time? 20. I was surprised at Minute 13:45 of the lecture that a letter to Kehoe was mentioned as Ben Simon), but there was no mention of Stan Friedman. Eventually I?ll have to check to see when Stan started his involvement. 21. It seems odd that so many aliens can communicate in English via telepathy. 22. Herb Shermer in Nebraska: the aliens came from another Galaxy!?!? 23. I?m disappointed by the inability of research groups? inabilities to get along. I recall hearing about a recent (big) investigation in Texas (I believe it was Stephenville) where, in doing their research, it seemed as if there was competition between the investigators rather than cooperation. 24. Why does the CIA seems so interested in these groups? The only down-to-Earth reasons I can think of are (i) they want to encourage such talk (?UFOs exist?) to cause people to think Top Secret test flights are UFOs or they are looking to be able to track back leaks from the Federal Government. </fsphys></lousheehan></lousheehan></fsphys></fsphys></lousheehan></lousheehan></fsphys></p> 15765554 2013-04-18 07:06:16 2013-04-18 07:06:16 open open the-prattling-of-idiots-page-413-lou-sheehan-15765554 draft 0 0 post 0 High Strangeness UFOs 1970 - 1990 http://Louis9J9Sheehan9esquire.blog.ca/2013/04/15/high-strangeness-ufos-1970-15756279/ Mon, 15 Apr 2013 01:59:43 +0200 Beforethebigbang <p>Louis Sheehan High Strangeness UFOs 1970 - 1990 Various Discussion Points [in no particular order]: 1. [Page 320.] “Sarbacher replied on November 23, 1983. He confirmed he was ‘invited to participate in several discussions associated with the reported recoveries’ of UFOs, although he was unable to attend the meetings.” I take the man at his word ... but ... WHO WOULD THINK ANY OTHER MEETING WOULD ME MORE IMPORTANT TO ATTEND THAN A MEETING REGARDING A RECOVERED UFO [AND RECOVERED BODIES/ALIENS] !!! What was he thinking? 2. I was enjoying reading the Chapter when it dawned on me that it is more rewarding to be be able to discuss the reading with others. Then I thought: BookClub! I know that any such thing other than on an informal basis is more than ‘pie in the sky’ and even on an informal basis is highly unlikely. Heck, I don’t have the time to organize/moderate any such thing. Imagine, though, an online forum where once a month a group of people discuss the same book? Say “Night Siege” one month, and then the next month “You Can’t Tell the People”, etc. Then I thought of someone I saw on the movie “I know What I Saw” thinking he seemed level-headed, knowledgeable, and probably retired and that maybe he might want to try something like this? I checked and it was Richard Hall ... who passed away in 2009. Although, theoretically, Richard Dolan might try something like that every other month or so on his radio show .... I ordered a used copy of Mr. Hall’s UFO Evidence Vol. 1 as it was inexpensive [but for now I’m holding off on Vol. 2 as it is expensive]. Apparently these were Mr. Hall’s seminal works. The man dedicated his life to studying UFOs. http://www.theparacast.com/podcasts/paracast_090802.mp3 3. I’m intrigued by the number of cases (a minority, but nevertheless a ‘pattern’) of alleged extr-terrestrials who seem to ‘float’ along the Earth’s surface, i.e., as distinct from walking. I recall the aliens that the young children in Zimbabwe saw also ‘floated.’ 4. Clearly the author of our text (and has Crystal) picked up the frequency by which a form of communication takes place between people and the/the occupants of the UFOs via lights (flashlights, etc.)[Page 270, by way of example.] . I remember this being a key componenet of the ‘Allagash Case’ which I hope we will discuss. [Note: aliens as ‘insect-like’; see Dr. Sarbacher’s comments on Text page 320.] Allagash Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-Pylynhb4 Allagash Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WuI7nTAc60 5. Another pattern is that which is described/demonstrated in the incident involving students at X’ian Unversity in Shani Provice (China) on June 18, 1981 [page 265]: an object splits into several parts, converges, etc. [Think of Bentwaters.] 6. Isn’t a reasonable interpretation of one aspect of the Hanna McRoberts photo [page 267] simply that they didn’t notice the ‘little dot’ of the UFO flying even as they took the picture(s)? She/they were probably simply staring at the beautiful mountain ... i.e., in my opinion there is no need to assume the craft could camouflage itself from the human eye but not the camera. 7. In the event anyone else is interested, here a link to a PDF of the 21 page NSA document discussed on page 275. Fascinating. http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/in_camera_affadavit_yeates.pdf 8. Our Text references the book ‘Clear Intent’ which sounds interesting. 9. Crystal mentioned the book “Night Siege.” I noticed the third co-author was Bob Pratt. Now I know more about the man [National Enquirer, MUFON, etc.]; it is nice to make these connections. 10. Are there any updates on Phil Imbrogno? 11. As to gary McKinnon, shouldn’t he have been given AN AWARD for showing the vulnerability of certain governmental computers, and not prosecuted? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon 12. I recall a video of Dr. Hynek saying words to the effect that he would be ‘disappointed if the UFO phenomenon were only a nuts-and-bolts’ phenomenon, After being a part of the composition of a book on the Hudson Valley sightings (something as ‘nuts-and-bolts’ as can be), he (seemingly) comes to a conclusion that it is all about fairies?!? [Pages 309-310.] [I did a quick search on youtube, but didn’t find the video I seem to remember.] 13. A few videos on Frederick Valentich [page 189]. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIOTi-dLBJY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6OEekOWoZU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiNaiflau4A -- Lou </p> 15756279 2013-04-15 01:59:43 2013-04-15 01:59:43 open open high-strangeness-ufos-1970-15756279 publish 0 0 post 0 ufo

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